He hunts found footage like an obsessive collector, and his test for keeping a clip
is not the one you'd expect. "A big part
of it is if I can find some humour in it.
I like to draw from a wide variety of time periods and aesthetics, to make
it as chaotic as possible." He stitches
by visual rhyme: "In one clip someone
is walking out the door, and then I find another clip from a completely different time period, and it also has someone walking out the door. So I can stitch
that together. Or queer innuendos that were not meant to exist in the original footage at all." Sometimes a clip never finds its slot. "It's kind of like a puzzle piece. Sometimes that clip is just not
one of the pieces, but maybe I'll use
it for something else. That's just going off vibes and intuition."
On the people left inside that old footage, he's a strange mix of tender
and detached. "I inherently transform
it into something else. The meaning
of the original footage changes, because the context has changed. I do view them as people, but I'm almost a bit detached from it." Then, with a grin:
"Those people from the 1950s clip,
they probably wouldn't like being put
in a weird queer film very much. But that's a them problem. They shouldn't have made it royalty-free."
One fragment in his film is hard to shake: a man and a woman in bed, trading lines that mean nothing. "It was from the fifties, I believe, or the sixties.
The whole point was that it was completely vague — taking the piss out
of movie tropes. They're purposely
not saying anything of importance.
They talk about missing something in life, but it's never touched on. It's 'It's ironic,' 'Don't be a fool, Mary' — and they never say what's missing." He can't remember where it came from, which is entirely
in keeping with a method built
on the anonymous archive.
There's a piece he calls his most vulnerable, and at its centre is a recording
he once made of himself. "I was maybe one month on T, and I was drunk
in that video — super drunk.
I was just filming myself, I don't know why.
Then I was going through my phone, found it, and I knew I wanted to use it."
For Julian, putting something that intimate in public is the point. "That film
is very personal, much more vulnerable than my other films. What's great
about publicising these intimate moments is that it brings those queer or trans moments — euphoric or dysphoric
— to the fore. There's a lot of power
in making public really intimate moments." Where's the line, then? "Where's the line, honestly? I haven't reached the line yet,
so I don't know if there is one. I would include a video of me having sex.
So I don't know where the line is."
"I don't really regret things. Once it's done, it's done — it exists as its own archival piece. It exists without you after. Regretting stuff isn't really in my vocabulary."